Clearing up some misconceptions (including my own) [WARNING: LONG, MATH]
I've been reviewing NAV's code for the past couple months in my spare time and have seen a few things pass for granted which I had assumed were edicts from the NAV team, but as it turns out, they were not. I'll just cover them in sections below. This is going to get long, and hopefully you like math. I'm sorry, in advance.
Coins do not gain weight with age
tldr; section title This is the big one, and the reason I wanted to review NAV's code in the first place. I had been treating this unofficial medium article like it was the bible, and it mentions that coins are weighted with age and size. No other documentation I could find indicated any differently (honestly, there's not really other documentation, in the first place) and so, having not finished looking into the code, I presumed that was simply true. It is not, however. I'm not even sure where this idea came from, besides that article, because no NAV team announcements I've seen have said this, but maybe I'm just not looking back far enough.
So how DOES it work?
tldr; values are hashed together and compared against a target. That target is adjusted based only on how many NAV are staking For those who haven't looked into how NAV picks the next group of staking coins (like I hadn't), the way it works is that a bunch of publicly available values (such as the time of the block you want to make, the time and hash of the transaction that represents your coinstake, and a few others) are hashed twice through SHA256 to create a random number. The actual values input are less important, what is important for NAV's purposes is that they are available to everyone, reasonably unique, and can be verified by other nodes on the blockchain. The output is, mathematically speaking, reproducible, but also completely random. This value is then checked against a target value that changes based on how fast the network is making blocks. If the network is making blocks around once every three seconds? The target value gets harder (smaller). If the network is making blocks around once every minute? The target value gets easier (larger). The target value just gets adjusted until the network is sitting comfortably at 30 second blocks. So far this is the same way Bitcoin keeps their block time consistent. However, PoS currencies then usually make an adjustment to that target value to increase your chances to win. In NAV's case, they multiply the target value by the number of coins you are staking. This means that a group of 1000 coins is 1000 times more likely to stake than a group of 1 coin. To use more accessible numbers, since the values NAV is using are huge, this would be like saying the base odds are that you have to roll a 2 or below on a 100-sided die to win the coinstake. For one roll, you have a 2% chance. For two rolls, you have a 3.95% chance, for three rolls you have a 5.88% chance, for ten you have a 18.29% chance. For n rolls, a 1 - (98^n)/(100^n) chance. To simplify this somewhat, and encourage larger groups, NAV simply says that if you have 10 coins, your chances are 10 * 2%, or 20%. It's a bit more, but it's close. It's worth noting that, using this system, if you have 50 coins, you have a 100% chance to win every roll, whereas pure single-roll odds only give you a 63.58% chance. The reason this isn't really a problem is that, in this example, there would only be 50 coins in existence, and you probably don't even have access to half of them. Additionally, if you are winning too quickly, NAV will start handing you a 200 sided die, then a 400 sided die, until you are only winning one in 30 -- and this is assuming you're the only one playing. With a table of people, you will get a larger die until only one of you is winning one roll in 30.
tldr; if coins gained weight with age it might be an actual security concern. This way is not The problem with Proof of Stake Age (PoSA) is that, if implemented poorly, it can create opportunities for very cheap attacks. You may have heard of a 51% attack (or majority attack) before. This is where any single entity in the Bitcoin network gains more than 50% of the hashing power. At 51% the chances of them mounting a successful network control attack are now greater than half, which presents a potential danger to the network.
tldr; you need lots of fancy computers that you get to keep after You need a lot of hashing power, which means a lot of computers, which means a lot of financial capital. Or, you need to combine with another organization or pool to combine your hashing power. This was actually a concern once in Bitcoin, but fortunately was resolved to no ill-effect, and ghash.io agreed to cut down their processing. In a PoW system, however, after you have executed your attack, you still have all of your computers, and can use them for something else. The financial capital you have invested is kept, and you never had to invest a single penny into the coin.
tldr; you need lots of coins that you probably spent a lot of money on, which are probably worth very little after In PoS currencies, a 51% attack is still possible, but in this case you would need to have more than half of the staking coins. As of a few days ago, the network weight was hovering around ~18-22 million NAV, so for NAV, you would need ~10-12 million coins to have the requisite 51% of coins. The base assumption for a PoS currency, however, is that, once you have that many coins, you're pretty invested in the network, and it is directly detrimental to you to attempt to attack it. When you execute your attack, you will likely greatly damage trust in the coin, and lose a large portion of your investment. At least, this is the theory.
tldr; you need a little bit of money and a lot of time You just need to wait. The most simplistic form of PoSA is in the form: adjusted_target = coins * time * base_target. If left uncapped, the time adjustment can allow a single coin stake to outweigh the entire network. Even with a cap of three months (for a total of 7776000 age-weight), you could use a mere 797 individual 0.01 NAV stakes (7.97 NAV total) to outweigh the combined base weight of all 62 million NAV in existence. You want good actors to have the most weight on the network, but in a PoSA currency, good actors are constantly losing their weight when their time resets, whereas bad actors can get more weight for doing nothing.
tldr; you need a little bit of money and to somehow create a bunch of coins with the same hashing window There are some currencies, such as VeriCoin, which have attempted to address this in novel ways, using what they call Proof of Stake Time. They create an ideal window during which your coins gain weight, but after which they return to base levels. This should theoretically encourage people to keep a server running, so they can always catch that window when it happens, which is partially randomized (to prevent someone from simply making a bunch of 0.01 coinstakes at the same time and just waiting for the window). I'm not sure how battle-tested this is, and I can think of a few potential vectors for attack that might exist, depending on implementation, but it does present an interesting and promising approach to the problem of how to encourage everyone on the network to participate, instead of just large stake holders with good odds.
So how likely is it for me to actually get a stake with ___ NAV
tldr; at current network weights it's likely that 1000 NAV will stake around once a week, and 1 NAV will stake once every 17 years. Since NAV is neither PoSA nor PoST (which I would stress isn't a bad thing, because pure PoS is comparatively simple and has known -- and addressed -- vectors of attack. It's also not necessarily a good thing; it's mostly just a thing), you're basically just as likely to stake today as you are tomorrow. Theoretically, every second should present a new opportunity to win a stake, but in practice this ends up not quite working out because there are other people on the network. Every time you accept a new block, you cut off all of the seconds before it forever. In practice, it's probably easiest to just look at the total weight of the network, and your weight, and extrapolate from there. We'll take for granted that NAV will have 30 second block times for this calculation. If you've got Python you can follow along:
>>> # 2 blocks/min * 60 min/hr * 24 hday * 365 days/year ... TOTAL_STAKES_IN_YEAR = 1051200 >>> # 60 sec/min * 60 min/hr * 24 hday * 365 day/yr ... SECONDS_IN_YEAR = 31536000 >>> # the number of coins you are staking ... stake = 1.0 >>> # The total number of coins on the network ... network_weight = 18701284.96584108 >>> my_stakes_per_year = (stake / network_weight) * TOTAL_STAKES_IN_YEAR 0.05621004128433283 >>> seconds_between_stakes = SECONDS_IN_YEAR / my_stakes_per_year 561038548.9752324
For those keeping track, this means that a 1 NAV stake is expected to take approximately 17.79 years to see a return in the current network (and, even then, only if you happen to be online at exactly the right time and nobody else stakes it first). Coincidentally, this is where that "expected time to stake" number comes from, which I've seen people asking about. I didn't actually look that one up in the code, so I'm not sure how their exact equation differs from mine, but I arrived at the exact same numbers they did, so it's likely similar (and probably more concise, because I am both a verbose writer and programmer, if you hadn't noticed). A 1000 NAV stake, using what I am calling network math for ease of reference, is expected to take around 6.49 days. My suspicion is that the reason this is sometimes more sporadic is that going by the target alone, and testing every second, a 1000 NAV stake should be getting a hit around once every 8 hours. I generated a file of 31536000 hashes (one for each second in the year), using the rules NAV uses to create hashes, and came up with the following table.:
*Assumes a target of 0x1a183258. I forget which block I pulled this from, but it's still around there. This unpacks to a value of: 0x0000000000001832580000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Calc wins : Mathematical calculation for how many hashes you should win, given the target Hash wins : This was pulled from the file with a year's worth of random hashes. N-M Wins : The number of wins network math says you should get Hash time : The average time between wins in the randomized file for the given NAV amount N-M time : The amount of time network math says you should wait between wins NAV : Calc wins : Hash wins : N-M wins : Hash time : N-M time 1 : 1.05 : 1 : 0.05 : ~1 year : 17.79 years 5 : 5.29 : 7 : 0.28 : 41.66 days : 3.56 years 10 : 10.59 : 10 : 0.56 : 34.27 days : 1.78 years 50 : 52.95 : 44 : 2.81 : 7.49 days : 129.87 days 100 : 105.89 : 107 : 5.62 : 3.42 days : 64.94 days 200 : 211.79 : 212 : 11.24 : 41.24 hours : 32.47 days 500 : 529.48 : 532 : 28.11 : 16.39 hours : 12.99 days 1000 : 1058.97 : 1050 : 56.21 : 8.33 hours : 6.49 days 2000 : 2117.93 : 2109 : 112.42 : 4.15 hours : 3.25 days 5000 : 5294.83 : 5326 : 281.05 : 98.62 minutes : 1.30 days 1000000 : 1058966.42 : 1058455 : 56210.04 : 29.79 seconds : 9.35 minutes
So obviously, a bit of disparity between the target-based times and the network calculated times. I would guess this has to do with other people on the network cutting you off from time values, and orphaned transactions where you did get the right value, but somebody else made a weightier one, but this is where my ability to really verify exactly what is happening starts dwindling. The disparity in N-M wins and Calc wins indicates that the target is currently too easy, and should adjust upwards, because right now coins on the network are 18.84 times weightier (calc wins column / n-m wins column) in hashing power than they should be based on the total network weight. But this is also where the whole "50 groups of 1 coin has a 63.58% chance to hit 2/100 whereas 1 group of 50 coins has a 100% chance to hit 100/100" thing comes into play. Since the network is largely broken up into groups of, on average, 1500 coins, we're actually looking at ~12467.52 groups of 1500 coins vying to win any given block. Given the target, a group of 1500 coins should have a 0.0050369...% chance to win any given coinstake ((target * 150000000000) / maximum_hash_value). This means that the chance that at least one of the 12467.52 staking groups will match for a given second is 1 - (1 - 0.000050369...)^12467.52 = 0.4663, or 46.63%. This places the actual amount that coins are overweight a bit closer to 13.989 times. (network should have ~1/30 chance (3.33...%) to win any given second, 46.63 / 3.33...% = 13.989). However, as mentioned, the software itself can get in the way of that, so this might just be due to a quirk of how the NAV software searches for matches, since it will abandon any seconds prior to the most recently accepted block. If you were cut off from 13 seconds in every 100, that would account for the weight disparity. In any case, I would probably trust the network math times over the pure math ones, if you're just trying to get a feel for how long you'll likely wait between stakes. What this really translates to is that, although a 1 NAV stake will probably have one second out of the year that will hash in it's favour, even running 24/7 you're likely to miss 17 of those before you actually have all the right conditions to win. Interestingly, I did manage to find one 9.99 NAV stake that won after only 5 days; so it can happen. But it's all still random.
How does this affect my staking rewards?
tldr; it doesn't Fortunately, NAV pays out the amount you should receive down to the second. Let's take this block at random. 1119.84133642 NAV coinstake, generated 3.82575342 NAV. The time of the previous transaction that created that coinstake was 1514741456 (see the "Raw Transaction" tab). The time of the current transaction is 1514741456. that's all we need to go on.
>>> SECONDS_IN_DAY = 86400 >>> DAYS_IN_YEAR = 365 >>> CENT = 1000000 # .01 NAV >>> COIN = 100000000 # 1.0 NAV >>> REWARD_PERCENT = 5 * CENT # will be 4 * CENT with community fund >>> # All NAV amounts in satoshi (navtoshi? natoshi?) ... stake = 111984133642 >>> # time of this stake ... stake_time = 1516896224 >>> # time of the transaction that made this stake >>> stake_prev_time = 1514741456 >>> # I'm not 100% positive why it converts to cent/seconds first, ... # but this is what the code does, so we need to as well if we ... # want to be accurate ... cent_seconds = (stake * (stake_time - stake_prev_time)) // CENT 241299827679 >>> # Now they undo the cent_seconds for some reason? I'm not sure. ... # This does, however, create a minimum coin stake for any given time. ... # 1 NAV, for instance, will not generate anything if it stakes until ... # it is exactly one day old (with a whopping 0.00013698 NAV). ... # The minimum NAV stake you can get a reward from if you get lucky ... # and stake at the end of two hours is 11 NAV. ... coin_day = ((cent_seconds * CENT) // COIN) // SECONDS_IN_DAY 27928 >>> stake_reward = (coin_day * REWARD_PERCENT) // DAYS_IN_YEAR 382575342
note: // is a floor division. For example, 3 / 2 = 1.5, 3 // 2 = 1 And we come out the other end with exactly 3.82575342 NAV. Those are the only variables that affect your payout for staking. You then also get whatever the fees happen to be. There's not any magic to it, and so far as I can tell there's also not a limit. If you legitimately wait those 17 years for your 1 NAV to stake, your eventual payout will be on the order of 0.84 NAV. Anyways, that's pretty much all there is to your payout; it's very direct.
So is it worth it for me to stake?
tldr; personal preference Honestly, this is entirely up to you. If you're in the "month or more" camp of coinstakers, it's probably not worth your while to be running 24/7 unless you're just really into securing the network (which, to be fair, I am all about that, so feel free). But with the blockchain at the small size it is right now, and if you're going to be using your computer anyways, it probably doesn't hurt to just run it in the background and see if you get lucky. Like pointed out, the actual amount you get is not affected by any of this. All that this means is that it is harder to predict exactly when you will get a stake. If you're concerned about financially supporting the staking, then NavTechServers has created this handy calculator to help out. From a mathematical standpoint, it's ironically much more likely for small coinstakers to get stakes if they are running 24/7, but from a financial standpoint, you're probably not getting enough to care to, so it's up to your preferences.
Cold Staking is not staking while offline
tldr; there is no magic that will allow blocks to be created without nodes on the network I've also seen a bit of confusion over what cold staking is likely to bring, and want to ensure people aren't upset when it does get rolled out. Specifically the misconception that staking with offline coins is the same thing as staking while offline. It is physically impossible to generate a block without something connected to the network, and you only get staking rewards once you have generated a block, because the blockchain doesn't really have the tools to tell who is online and participating beyond "who made this block." All that cold staking means is that the private keys to use your NAV to buy things or move their address are not on the server doing the staking. In general, this is accomplished via a smart contract and a secondary set of keys that is given permission to use your coins, but only for staking. If those keys are used for moving the a coin from one account to another, then the smart contract will flag it as an incorrect usage. This means that if someone hacks into your server, the only thing they could steal are the keys that permit them to stake your blocks. This is much easier to correct than someone stealing your private keys and moving your NAV to a separate address. Particl's overview of their cold staking system is a good read to get some baseline expectations. Most implementations of cold staking do open up the possibility to sign your coins over to someone else to stake, which opens up the entirely new 51% attack vector of asking people to just GIVE you their network weight. But given that I have just recently explained to you all why one person owning a majority of the coin staking weight on the network is dangerous, I shouldn't have to tell you why this would be a bad idea, right? RIGHT??
In any case, that's about it. Chances are the answer to the question "am I staking" is "yes", so long as the wallet tells you that it's staking. Unfortunately (but also fortunately), waiting longer only increases your chances insofar as you are trying more, but when you do eventually stake, you will be paid out based on how long you have waited, so there's not much lost. I could go into much more depth about all this but this was about as concise as I could get it while still showing most of my work. I'd also be happy to address any other questions that arise from this, and obviously if somebody who knows better finds anything wrong with any of the details here let me know. If you wanted to get into this more in-depth, I've created a Python script which explains some of the technical aspects more thoroughly (including how to unpack the compact target number into the full value being checked in the code), and allows you to get hands-on with real block values. You can download it here. Happy hodling, everybody.
I will compile a list of information here that will be useful to understand more of what's going on in this world. Feel free to suggest anything you think would contribute or just simply post it in the comments. I need to clarify what I see my role as. My role is not to spell everything out for you and tell you what to think. I mostly see my role as basically a punch to the face of what most people think they know about this world. Whatever you think you know, its most likely a lie, because this entire world is nothing but layers and layers of lies stacked on top of each other. You never had a chance to not believe lies unless you actively fought against them and sought out truth instead which is something most people just simply don't have the time or energy for and understandably so. My job is too shake you out of your lies and if that makes you want to know more, then you will want to seek more but that has to be your own journey or else it won't make nearly as much of an impact as it needs to. Consider me the guy pointing his finger at things that need to be looked at more closely and offering a perspective that maybe you hadn't considered before. Then go look where I pointed with a new perspective and see where it leads you. If you don't care enough to do that then I don't care enough to explain things to you. First I will list the order I recommend you read my personally written stuff since there is no way to organize it on Reddit. If you are relatively new to this kind of information, there are things you should know and read before you read others.
Start here with the basic psychology of Trump explained and the rest will make more sense. Even if you don't believe in any of this other stuff, learning his psychology will help you out tremendously in understanding his actions and motives.
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This talks about America/New York being Mystery Babylon in the Book of Revelation and what that means. I also connect the dots between Trump, Russia and the Scottish Rite Freemasons along with a 30 year old prediction from 1988 by the Economist magazine about a one world currency being implemented in 2018 by way of Bitcoin.
Here I talk about where all these secret societies originated from, how a prophecy from the book of Revelation about unclean frog spirits gathering the army of the Antichrist came true with the election of Donald Trump and the specific order of Free Masonry he belongs to. Does the spear that killed Christ play into this as well?
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This is mostly Bible related to the very end of whats suppose to be right before Jesus comes back. I talk about the theory that aliens will come and act as our saviors only to enslave us with something that's called the NESARA act and how that relates to the Mark of the Beast.
To really tie this all together, you really need to read and understand the information in this article/video. Especially if you are a Christian and believe Yahweh to be God and the Father of Jesus. All of my other OC should make a lot more sense after understanding the information in the aforementioned posts.
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Bill Cooper, former United States Naval Intelligence Briefing Team member, reveals information that remains hidden from the public eye. This information has been kept in Top Secret government files since the 1940s.
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Not your average Q Anon thread: Psy-ops, Zionists, Aliens; a true rabbit hole.
I've long suspected & now conclude that #QAnon is a psy-op. In fact, it is. That's fact. It is obviously a psychological operation. The question is - what motives are behind it? Many think this will save us. I don't. Here's why. Q claims Saudi Arabia, Rothschild's & Soros = NWO, the 'trifecta' of the pyramid. BULLSHIT. If you've researched the new world ordecabal, you should know that Zionism is central to it. Many researchers have exposed this for years – David Icke, Fritz Springmeier, Henry Makow, to name a few. Recent JFK leaks prove Zionists were in on the JFK hit (the day America ceased to exist, according to many). Christopher Bollyn 'the man who solved 9/11' proved that Zionists were behind 9/11. JFK: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUJwaJ6VQAQGaa4.jpg:large Christopher Bollyn – solving 9/11: https://youtu.be/qOq-LbQ4erM The US has been infiltrated by Zionists/Israel & USED. This is blatantly obvious by Trump's foreign policy decisions re: the middle east. Iran is the last threat to Zionist expansion still standing. War with Iran seems inevitable. Jake Morphonios over at Blackstone Intelligence Network on youtube explains why/how: https://youtu.be/wXwBWJYveV4 Trump even stated that he wanted to be 'the most pro-Israel president'. Why? Israel has repeatedly attacked the United States, covertly. Let us not forget this episode as well: http://www.globalresearch.ca/uss-liberty-attacked-by-israel-47-years-ago-the-u-s-left-soldiers-behind/5386247?print=1 There’s his long-standing ties to ultra-Zionist Sheldon Adelson to consider and then that the Kushner's are also longtime Zionists and even fund illegal settlements & Israeli extremists. So there's really no doubt whatsoever that there's Zionists in the White House. https://geopolitics.co/2017/04/28/trumps-son-in-law-financed-israeli-extremists-and-settlements/ Even leaving aside Israeli atrocities against the people of Palestine, what we are seeing take place blatantly follows the 'Which Path To Persia?' plan. https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdf This benefits Zionist Isreal. Don't you find it rather odd, therefore, that Q Anon is highlighting ABSOLUTELY NONE of Israel's involvement in terrorism? ISIS are right on the border of Israel & alleged 'Islamic extremists'. Why then do they NEVER attack Israel? THINK Israel's involved in creation of almost every terror group in the middle east. Israel basically is a terrorist state. This is laid bare in the book 'Israel's Sacred Terrorism', Bollyn's 9/11 research, & comments by many Jews, both high ranking Israeli officials & their relatives, as well as other groups - Moshe & Yael Dayan, Miko Peled, Gush Shalom & others https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS0EMxfVQAE4MYK.jpg:large REAL Jews know this & protest against Israeli Zionists, the AshkeNAZI infiltrators of Judaism. 'Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews but are not, but do lie' (Revelations 3:9) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS0ERdhVwAA1nu3.jpg:large Recently there was a changed stance on Syria, which once again seems to support the agenda for Zionist expansion and the creation of ‘Eretz Israel’. https://www.rt.com/usa/416238-syria-tillerson-policy-obama/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome#.WmAartkc4LQ.twitter I have scoured Q Anon's posts & found NOTHING that addresses PROVEN Zionist terrorism, control & manipulation. The overall Q narrative in fact supports Zionist aims. For this reason, I believe Q Anon phenomenon is in fact a Zionist psychological operation. Israel is only mentioned by Q with regards to Rothschild central banks. Neither Netanyahu nor any prior Israeli leaders are mentioned. Mossad is also omitted, which is suspicious as all hell. Next I would like to talk about The Protocols of Zion. If you’re one of these people who believe the ‘it’s a forged/plagiarized piece of anti-Semitic propaganda’ claims, I direct you to the thorough debunking of those claims by Henry Makow in his book Illuminati: The Cult That Hijacked The World, which I will include as the first comment to this post. Consider some of what The Protocols of Zion state, which relates heavily to the corruption purges we are seeing. I'm not saying Pedogate & corruption aren't real. But what if those are the 'presidential stain' the Protocols speak of? Here's a few excerpts that I think really sum things up...
In the near future we shall establish the responsibility of presidents. By that time we shall be in a position to disregard forms in carrying through matters for which our impersonal puppet will be responsible. What do we care of the ranks of those striving for power should be thinned, if there should arise a deadlock from the impossibility of finding presidents, a deadlock which will finally disorganize the country? In order that our scheme may produce this result we shall arrange elections in favour of such presidents as have in their past some dark, undiscovered stain, some "Panama" or other -- then they will be trustworthy agents for the accomplishment of our plans out of fear of revelations and from the natural desire of everyone who has attained power, namely, the retention of the privileges, advantages and honour connected with the office of president. The chamber of deputies will provide cover for, will protect, will elect presidents, but we shall take from it the right to propose new, or make changes in existing laws, for this right will be given by us to the responsible president, a puppet in our hands. Naturally, the authority of the president will then become a target for every possible form of attack, but we shall provide him with a means of self-defense in the right of an appeal to the people, for the decision of the people over the heads of their representatives, that is to say, an appeal to that same blind slave of ours -- the majority of the mob.
What if the reason the elite pedos & corrupt psychos are in fact being thrown to the fire? What if the point was always to expose it? Pedogate has the potential to tear down the global establishments in politics, media and religion.
It is from us that the all-engulfing terror proceeds. We have in our service persons of all opinions, of all doctrines, restorating monarchists, demagogues, socialists, communists, and utopian dreamers of every kind. We have harnessed them all to the task: each one of them on his own account is boring away at the last remnants of authority, is striving to overthrow all established form of order. By these acts all States are in torture; they exhort to tranquility, are ready to sacrifice everything for peace: but we will not give them peace until they openly acknowledge our international Super-Government, and with submissiveness. The people have raised a howl about the necessity of settling the question of Socialism by way of an international agreement. Division into fractional parties has given them into our hands, for, in order to carry on a contested struggle one must have money, and the money is all in our hands.
The money is all in whose hands, and was even in 1903? Rothschild’s. Who controls the press? Rothschild’s. Has done since the mid 19th century (Reuters established mid 1800s). To say nothing of ALL the other Zionist control over the news media.
The words of the liberal, which are in effect the words of our masonic watchword, namely, "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity," will, when we come into our kingdom, be changed by us into words no longer of a watchword, but only an expression of idealism, namely, into: "The right of liberty, the duty of equality, the ideal of brotherhood." That is how we shall put it, -- and so we shall catch the bull by the horns. .... De facto we have already wiped out every kind of rule except our own, although de jure there still remain a good many of them. Nowadays, if any States raise a protest against us it is only pro forma at our discretion and by our direction, for their anti-Semitism is indispensable to us for the management of our lesser brethren. I will not enter into further explanations, for this matter has formed the subject of repeated discussions amongst us. For us there are no checks to limit the range of our activity. Our Super-Government subsists in extra legal conditions which are described in the accepted terminology by the energetic and forcible word -- Dictatorship. I am in a position to tell you with a clear conscience that at the proper time we, the lawgivers, shall execute judgement and sentence, we shall slay and we shall spare, we, as head of all our troops, are mounted on the steed of the leader. We rule by force of will, because in our hands are the fragments of a once powerful party, now vanquished by us. And the weapons in our hands are limitless ambitions, burning greediness, merciless vengeance, hatreds and malice.
And one more...
What form of administrative rule can be given to communities in which corruption has penetrated everywhere, communities where riches are attained only by the clever surprise tactics of semi-swindling tricks; where looseness reigns: where morality is maintained by penal measures and harsh laws but not by voluntarily accepted principles: where the feelings toward faith and country are obliterated by cosmopolitan convictions? What form of rule is to be given to these communities if not that despotism which I shall describe to you later? We shall create an intensified centralization of government in order to grip in [our] hands all the forces of the community. We shall regulate mechanically all the actions of the political life of our subjects by new laws. These laws will withdraw one by one all the indulgences and liberties which have been permitted by the goyim, and our kingdom will be distinguished by a despotism of such magnificent proportions as to be at any moment and in every place in a position to wipe out any goyim who oppose us by deed or word.
The Protocols mention control of gold, engineering the French Revolution, and controlling all of the money supply. "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws," - Mayer Amschel Rothschild Bear in mind that the Rothschild's created Israel. So how in the hell do people still believe Q's narrative that the Cabal is being taken down, with so much brazen & blatant support, aid, encouragement coming from the US government to Israel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj5eypBex-U What if the 'mass arrests' of elite pedos & corrupt criminals triggers a world-wide chain reaction of similar purges? What if the world is plunged into war - Iran & North Korea, as Jake Morphonios at Blackstone Intelligence Network outlined, could lead to two theaters of war? WWIII –just as Albert Pike planned it in his ‘Three World Wars’ plan? Pike of course was a leading Freemason. Freemasonry = Jewry for gentiles. What if the economy crashes majorly around the same time as all this? The Protocols of Zion basically allow for all of these scenarios - in fact, they're BANKING on them. What if all this corruption & depravity was by-design, to engineer the downfall of national governments allowing for the implementation of a 'new order'? The Rockefeller Reports were discussing a 'new world order' as early as the 1950s. The UN = the 'super-government' the Protocols speak of. https://youtu.be/NHGm49hhOmw Economic uncertainties ahead in 2018. Could this be the big crash that the Protocols speak of? A crash that tears down currencies across the globe and results in the implementation of a global digital currency? Hmmm... https://www.rt.com/business/415199-bitcoin-housing-deutsche-bank/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome Frankly, I’ve long felt that crypto-currencies are bad news. Bitcoin was the first big one and really set the ball in motion. Consider that nobody knows who created it. Consider that the NSA designed models for crypto-currency in the 1996: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm Consider that there are even now people coming out of the wood work to say the CIA is behind crypto’s: https://geopolitics.co/2018/01/20/bitcoin-is-us-dollar-2-0-created-by-cia-kaspersky-co-founde I think crypto-currency was always going to lead to the implementation of a global digital currency. The Protocols even speak of an engineered global coups d'etat & a massive purge of the secret societies & agentur that helped them achieve their final goal. They state that they will throw all the corrupt tools who helped them take over the world into the fire.
When we at last definitely come into our kingdom by the aid of coups d'etat prepared everywhere for one and the same day, after the worthlessness of all existing forms of government has been definitely acknowledged (and not a little time will pass before that comes about, perhaps even a whole century) we shall make it our task to see that against us such things as plots shall no longer exist. With this purpose we shall slay without mercy all who take arms (in hand) to oppose our coming into our kingdom. Every kind of new institution of anything like a secret society will also be punished with death; those of them which are now in existence, are known to us, serve us and have served us, we shall disband and send into exile to continents far removed from Europe. In this way we shall proceed with those GOY masons who know too much; such of these as we may for some reason spare will be kept in constant fear of exile. We shall promulgate a law making all former members of secret societies liable to exile from Europe as the centre of our rule. Resolutions of our government will be final, without appeal.
So again. How does the narrative of Q not indicate to you that the end is near? That the 'storm' is the take over? While you're all 'following the white rabbit', they're drawing their plans against us. Q is a Zionist psy-op to keep you gnawing on a bone while 'they' win. Q has even indicated that upon the mass arrest scenario, martial law would be rolled out. And people who have joined the Q cult train go ‘YAY’? They are witnessing the foundation of excuses being laid for the own rule by martial law, and at what point will that end? Once they have it in place, we are at their mercy. I think they will use pedogate to justify total, 100%, round the clock tracking and surveillance of EVERYONE. It will be the roll out of the smartgrid, the internet of things. To monitor every move or expenditure you make. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tn4P7IBqoQ A total control grid... The governments will be destroyed & massive amounts of power consolidated globally. Agenda 21 & 2030. They will crash the economy & bring in a global digital currency, probably the RFID chips as well. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS0LSbuV4AA-5_r.jpg:large Meanwhile, as per the 'rod and ring prophecy' the 'star will gorge itself on clay'. Eretz Israel will soon be created as the seat of power, the 'kingdom' the the Protocols speak of. Trump will be hailed as the savior of the Jewish people, fulfiller of biblical prophecy. He will judge harshly all of the corrupt agents & secret socities & engage in the purge that births the global coups d'etat. Perhaps that's why he was shown on the Judgement card of the Economist 2017 cover? 'The storm' began in 2017... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS0L8LpVQAAJHIQ.jpg:large But what if 'the storm' is not what we think it is? What if we are being led stray? By exclusion of many facts, Q Anon has shown himself to be a Zionist. What if the plans laid centuries ago by the 'Elders of Zion' are the real end game of Q's narrative? "Expand your thinking" says #QAnon - but not in any direction that includes Zionist Israel in the sickness that has engulfed the planet. Yahweh forbids it!! Consider, too, the degree to which extraterrestrial reality has figured in the Q phenomenon. Then think about what Rabbi Laitman said... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS0PxcbVwAAYIJ4.jpg:large i am not an anti-Semite, and I'm NOT about trying to be divisive. It's about truth. Truth is all I've ever cared about. I'm drawing peoples' attention to a myriad of facts that Q excludes from the narrative & by that exclusion diverts truth seekers away from the truth towards a therefore bottomless rabbit hole. I believe we are all one. The Ra Material forms a basis of my philosophical thinking. However in order to arrive at a scenario in which we can come together as one, we must first be free of the Cabal's manipulation. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS0WibsV4AAl9FM.jpg:large But in thinking about the extraterrestrial elements that are figuring in all this – some even believe there WAS a missile launch against Hawaii and that it was prevented by extraterrestrials of some description. But consider what the Law of One says about Jesus in this excerpt, and what it suggests about Judaism…
Questioner: When Jesus of Nazareth incarnated was there an attempt by the Orion group to discredit him in some way? Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Questioner: Can you tell me what the Orion group did in order to try to cause his downfall? Ra: I am Ra. We may describe in general what occurred. The technique was that of building upon other negatively oriented information. This information had been given by the one whom your peoples called “Yahweh.” This information involved many strictures upon behavior and promised power of the third-density, service-to-self nature. These two types of distortions were impressed upon those already oriented to think these thought-forms. This eventually led to many challenges of the entity known as Jesus. It eventually led to one, sound vibration complex “Judas,” as you call this entity, who believed that it was doing the appropriate thing in bringing about or forcing upon the one you call Jesus the necessity for bringing in the third-density planetary power distortion of third-density rule over others. This entity, Judas, felt that, if pushed into a corner, the entity you call Jesus would then be able to see the wisdom of using the power of intelligent infinity in order to rule others. The one you call Judas was mistaken in this estimation of the reaction of the entity, Jesus, whose teach/learning was not oriented towards this distortion. This resulted in the destruction of the bodily complex of the one known as Jesus to you.
The ‘Orion group’ mentioned, by the way, seems most likely to be the Draco reptilians. What has secret space program whistle blower Corey Goode said repeatedly about the Draco? They are in league with the Cabal. David Icke has been making the connection between the elite Cabal and negative reptilian forces for decades now. Here the Ra material even talks about the ‘Diaspora’.
Questioner: Could you tell me why the Orion group had to leave after, I believe, it figures to be a six-hundred-year period, why they had to vacate? Ra: I am Ra. Although the impression that they had given to those who called them [was] that these entities were an elite group, that which you know as “Diaspora” occurred, causing much dispersion of these peoples so that they became an humbler and more honorable breed, less bellicose and more aware of the loving-kindness of the One Creator. The creation about them tended towards being somewhat bellicose, somewhat oriented towards the enslavement of others, but they themselves, the target of the Orion group by means of their genetic superiority/weakness, became what you may call the underdogs, thereby letting the feelings of gratitude for their neighbors, their family, and their One Creator begin to heal the feelings of elitism which led to the distortions of power over others which had caused their own bellicosity. Questioner: You stated that about 3,000 years ago the Orion group left due to Diaspora. Was the Confederation then able to make any progress after the Orion group left? Ra: I am Ra. For many of your centuries, both the Confederation and the Orion Confederation busied themselves with each other upon planes above your own, shall we say, planes in time/space whereby machinations were conceived and the armor of light girded on. Battles have been and are continuing to be fought upon these levels.
So, it would seem that the Jews, even as far back as the 3000 year old beginnings of humanities enslavement, were in league with the Draco. Don’t know about others, but I tend towards the theory that everything we think of as Gods, Angels, Demons, are simply extraterrestrials and interdimensional entities. Yahweh, the Law of One holds, was a negative entity. Could it possibly have been one of the Archons that the Gnostics were speaking of and that David Icke has thoroughly talked about over the years? He’s even connected Archons to Reptilians? I worry that where Q's narrative is going will only further entrap us & enslave us to the cabal's world order, that it will lead to further control of us by the Archons. The white rabbit is supposed to free us from the Matrix. I worry that Q's white rabbit is leading us deeper. In an October 29 post, Q stated:
Notice that he doesn’t actually indicate exactly who controls the presidency. The way this is phrased is sneaky. I believe he’s indicating that Trump is controlled and my guess would be that it’s by Zionists. I suspect that Q is an extension of this, a psy-op to keep people distracted while plans proceed, to direct peoples’ attention to some information and divert them from other information. These directions and diversions are designed steer the collective consciousness to manifesting the desired the take-downs, whilst leaving other players on the chess board intact. I believe what we are witnessing is different Cabal factions fighting it out and in the end I think it will lead to the creation of Greater Israel which, given the extraterrestrial connections that seem to be apparent with Jewish Zionists and elites, could be leading us to the Christian ‘second coming’ & the Jewish ‘first’. Eretz Israel encompasses all of the important land from biblical times and the earliest civilizations, when extraterrestrials were active on the planet beginning their genetic programs and manipulations of the human population. David Icke has talked a lot about the emergence of the post-cataclysm societies and the ‘new psyche’ that emerged – from indo-European and Semitic peoples. I would assert that this ‘new psyche’/reptilian brain scenario is due to the manipulation of our DNA by reptilians. I’d also venture that it’s interesting that they’re now talking about alien viruses killing us all off: https://www.rt.com/news/416548-alien-virus-space-study/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome This is in line with much of the predictive programming being done in the new X Files seasons, and would be an obvious preparation for, upon the establishment of Eretz Israel – the long held goal of the Zionists – the colonization of the planet by extraterrestrial forces, the ‘Archons’ that David Icke has long said seek to change this planet to suit their own needs. The existence of ET bases in the middle east is not unusual, of course. Expolitical perspective on the pre-emptive war in Iraq: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_A_0.htm The entire middle eastern and northern African region seems to have had an extraterrestrial presence throughout earlier civilizations. Think ancient. Sumeria, Babylon, Egypt... But let’s get back to Q before I wrap this mother up. The so-called ‘proofs’ of Q can be found on CBTS sub. But frankly, I think quite a few of their ‘proofs’ are tenuous at best. They ‘prove’ very little, actually. If anything, I think they do seem to suggest that Q Anon is a legitimate insider with access to Trump, and high level intel. However that doesn’t prove ANYTHING about intentions. If what I’m saying is true, all of the ‘proofs’ could be explained as part of the psy-op, couldn’t they? Consider all this and do some digging to add to it. I'll just leave you all with a couple more points. On Jan 14 Q Anon made reference to Jeremiah 29:11. According to the bible I’m holding in my hand that reads:
"For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end".
What might this be trying to tell us? Sounds good doesn't it? What about the Biblical context? Consider that...
"Jeremiah previously declared the divine prophecy that doomed the Israelites to exile in Babylon for 70 years. The Israelites viewed the prophecy as a hopeless proposition. As a result, they flocked to false prophets, including Hananiah, who prophesied that the exile would end in a shorter period of time. This situation led to Jeremiah's statement at verse 11 of chapter 29. The first part of the verse, "I know the plans I have for you, emphasizes that God had a set idea of what was going to happen to the Israelites in the coming years. Because the plans were set, the Israelites were incorrect to believe that the time of exile would be shortened. However, the second part of the verse, which states that these plans were "for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope," is included to remind the Israelites that the prophecy of exile was not a death sentence. God hoped the Israelites would not lose sight of their pending liberation from Babylon.”
What happened 70 years ago in 1948? - the creation of Israel. Now consider the long history of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by Israel. Israel, though officially a state since '48, seems to consider itself 'in exile', not having fully 'come into its Kingdom', if you like "the Israelites were incorrect to believe that the time of exile would be shortened", they thought their 'exile' was over upon the declaration of the Israeli state in 1948, but it has taken longer to fully eradicate the Arabs living in the region & reclaim the promised land The chapter that follows Jeremiah 29 is all about God showing Jeremiah the 'return of the Jews' from exile. I believe in a modern context --and given what has been going on in the middle east, the Jerusalem decision aggravating the Arab states... Ultimately providing the justification Israel needs (which is never much, to be fair) to finally defeat much of the middle east nations and create 'Eretz Israel'. The 'return of the Jews' is imminent. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTilOX5VAAA02Ly.jpg:large Remember the 'Rod & Ring prophecy' - 'the star will gorge itself on clay'. Star = star of David = Israel. Gorge itself on clay = massive land grab = creation of 'Eretz Israel'.
It will happen when the weather cools. That's when they'll make their move. The plans laid long ago, before the founding of America, and older still, will come to fruition. They're trying to force God's hand. Watch for these signs: Three branches will become one. An island will drift away. A killing bolt will shine in the night but will not kill. The star will gorge itself on clay. Idols will speak and move about. The black flag will fly above the dome. The belly of the dragon will drip water. Two voices will call out in a silence that all will hear. A rock will stand on seven hills. The ravens will starve. The bear will leave its cave forever. The rod and the ring will strike.
(As a slight aside: what's everyone's thoughts on the 'rod and ring' itself. I heard many people theorize that it is a reference to components of nuclear arms technologies. I don't believe that. I think it's a reference to genetics, DNA. I just can't work out HOW or WHAT it's going to mean lol. Of Rings and Rods: Regulating Cohesin Entrapment of DNA to Generate Intra- and Intermolecular Tethers - http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1006337 Organization and ordered expression of Caulobacter genes encoding flagellar basal body rod and ring proteins - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1474584 Some kind of change to our DNA perhaps? Corey Goode has made numerous claims about future activity from the sun and its effect on DNA. But it could even be something to do with the 'take down' of humanity using ET bio-warfare of some kind?) The very obvious build up to US/Israel/Saudi war against Iran = taking out the last threat to Israeli expansion extant in the middle east. Consider that Israel = a creation of the House of Rothschild = new world order agenda. "...thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end." = Ordo ab Chao = Order out of Chaos. Rothschild's = Satanists, yes? Who else = Satanists? See this thread from VictoryoftheLight on Twitter which outlines how the 'Lord God' of Moses in the Old Testament is in fact Satan. https://twitter.com/KibBitzLaw/status/880816932886372352 There's also the documentary Marching to Zion, which studies the biblical texts & makes the case Judaism's 'God' is really Satan/Lucifer https://youtu.be/styLx-iWwC8 There is a common futurist interpretation that the 'mark of the beast' & 666 in the Book of Revelations is a reference to the RFID chips that may be integral to the new world order control system. Then consider this https://www.yahoo.com/news/jared-kushner-apos-company-under-155951278.htmlhttps://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-29/senators-please-ask-jared-kushner-about-666-fifth-avenuehttp://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=19035 Considering all of the blatant connections to Israeli Zionists surrounding the Trump admin, as well as the middle east foreign policy that is unfolding day by day, the reference to Jeremiah 29:11, in its biblical context, provides little comfort. In fact, I find it startlingly confirms that the Q Anon narrative & its destination, as far as the Trump admin goes, shows massive favoritism to the Israeli Zionist agenda. I now wonder when Q speaks of 'patriots', whether that means patriots to US or patriots to Israel. Again, as Q said, ‘whoever controls the office of the presidency controls this great land’. Also, please consider the consistent use of Alice In Wonderland imagery by Q Anon. Alice in Wonderland is a documented component of MK Ultra mind control. Couple that with the many repeated statements Q makes. Things like the consistent recurrence of ‘future proves past’ – which I think could basically be code for ‘we’re re-writing history, folks’. Consider what happens when Alice 'follows the white rabbit' down the rabbit hole. She falls for some time, passing shelves & cupboards with things on them (Q's 'breadcrumbs'), but what happens at the bottom? Alice must shrink herself in order to fit through the door. Could that 'shrinking' be a metaphor for giving up huge amounts of civil liberties & freedoms? The Zionist new world order will require you a diminishing of human freedom & spirit in order to 'fit through the door'. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTiuHF7U0AAm-3P.jpg:large I know I'm being paranoid & making a lot out of a little, believe me. But I've studied the Cabal for a few years now. Despite all the hopes of the Q Anon cult, I'm seeing a lot of dismal warning signs, even from Q. We need to question what isn't in the crumbs, not just what is. EDIT: Also, consider that Q has shared proven false information: https://qcodefag.github.io/data/images/12be822f398904a6981d207b31854dbde63481d35a84703030debfbdb2ed3ca8.jpg There's a thread over on CBTS that addresses this.
“The WHOIS information for macklerr.com shows that it was first registered on Oct. 31, 2016 - the same day that the purported email from [email protected] appeared on the Web: http://whois.domaintools.com/macklerr.com In other words, there's no way an email could have been sent from macklerr.com more than 7 months before that (Mar. 19, 2016). This is a strong indication that the email is fake. Doesn't mean Q is fake.”
If we are to believe any of what Q has claimed, we'd surely have to believe their capability is above sharing false information.
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Now let's talk about the method here. But before talking about the method i would like to talk about the reason for selling this methods first of all. The reason for selling is because i'm moving from everything '' CC cashout '' related, anything that involves cc, i'm moving into something better. So i don't want to leave my legacy behind, i will pass it along. All my methods fresh and being used recently like 1-2 months ago in january february , may, june 2016. So this is reason i'm selling. So please don't send PM to me asking this again. This method is one of my BEST methods, if not the best. Absolutely NO DAILY LIMITS of how much can cashout per day and shit like that, unlike some of my other methods that have some limits. With this method you can even cashout like $10,000 AT ONCE in one single day, like i did myself from one good world card i got (Full proof of this on inside of the guide!) Also no bullshit docs scans verifications of any kind needed for cashout any amounts you want on a daily basis. Also any kinds of cc's accepted, absolutely no vbv / 3rd secure of any kind required, any kind of cc's from anywhere in the world are welcome. With this method you guys will be able to cashout ALL kinds of cc's from paypal... Master, Visa, Amex, Discover, Diners are all accepted this method works best with WORLD cards and provide the BEST sources of CHEAP and HIGH QUALITY WORLD CARDS why ? that's because world cards belong to RICH PEOPLE and this cards come usually with very very BIG balance on them so from this cards it's possible for you guys to cashout like $3000 to $10,000 AT ONCE from one single transaction like i did a couple times, and i will show you guys the full proof of that in the screenshots inside the guide with all details etc i have a private seller that i don't share with anyone who have this world cards and this cards really really kick ass and i been using them to cashout BIG money with paypal çand i'm providing you in this guide with the BEST sources of the BEST CARDS and THE BEST BINS to work with paypal Also this method is INSTANT cashout which means absolutely no chance for chargebacks and absolutely no waiting times from the day you carded and cashed out the cc's and got the money on your paypal account you can cash the money immediately as soon as you get it and it will be processed in within 1 to 5 days maximum in both ways both the regular cashout into any bank account worldwide and also the paypal to btc method / portion of this guide On this guide i will also be revealing to you my secret professional ways to create and verify LIMITLESS amounts of fresh paypal accounts and have them ready to go for UNLIMITED send and receive of funds. Not anything involved with this cheap VCC bullshit way of verifying paypal accounts, that is for amateurs, my way is guaranteed to build solid and strong paypal accounts from anywhere in the world you want to make the paypal account to look from, that will last long time and that can receive and send BIG funds back and forth, fully verified and fully UNLIMITED accounts and fully anonymous cashout into BTC from any of this paypal accounts. With this method i made $22,000 in only one month (On february 2016 only) and more $35,000 in another 1 ONE month within May + June 2016 and $13,000 of this $22,000 was made from only two of this world cards i been cashing out. Full proof of that is on inside of the guide. I'm sure this method is nothing you have seen before. I'm also providing a FREE paypal website that costed me $500 USD and that will be essential to putting ONE of the methods shared to work with full video tutorials teaching step by step how to install, and also how to use it to make this paypal cashouts, everything in big details, i leave nothing behind. It's a 160 pages PDF guide inside a 105.21 MB folder that you will get from me, ok guys ?! I also teach how to do things right and avoid getting declined payments because of shitty and dead cards and teach how to take the most advantage of your good cards. With this guide you guys are in for a big threat ! So that's it get your copy of this guide and start make a killing on paypal with your cards in a matter of days, like you never seen before, guaranteed! Full support for this guide will be given. My personal contact is on the inside the guide for customers only to see. So once purchased the guide you are entitled to my full lifetime support ok guys. So that's it get your copy now and get in for a BIG and good surprise :) Thanks BitcoinThief.
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